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For anyone who was wondering what I was talking about yesterday when I encouraged knitters to listen to the Royal Society talk (link as soon as it appears, btw) the quickest way to find out is to Google for "hyperbolic knitting". Although "hyperbolic crochet" will also get lots of hits. I'm not entirely clear (not having read all the articles in detail) which craft is considered the best for truly representing the maths…

Anyone who's read Time in a Bottle by [livejournal.com profile] astolat or Proof by [livejournal.com profile] maverick4oz and [livejournal.com profile] pollitt has got a head start on this, but contrary to what John and Rodney think in those stories, apparently knitting is the best way to represent hyperbolic space.

No, I haven't finally lost my marbles. See links below. If someone would care to write me SGA knitting-fic, I'd be over the moon… [[livejournal.com profile] mad_jaks, I haven't forgotten your puppy-fic, but I'm on a course this afternoon, so it will have to go up a bit later on, sorry :S]

Hyperbolic Crochet (The Times)
Hyperbolic Crochet and Science funding (blog)
Woolly thinking (The Guardian)
New Math Tricks (MSNBC science)
How crochet solved an age-old maths problem (The Times)
Hyperbolic Space – crochet models (The Institute for Figuring)

Also, today's link of randomness:

Herding Cats (this is an ad, but an ad of genius)

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Date: 2008-11-11 12:52 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (Default)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
I've got a bit of a cold right now so can't quite get my mind around the mathematics (...not that I could anyway) but those articles gave me a hankering to get out the old crochet hook...

And the cat-herding is simply marvelous!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] travels-in-time.livejournal.com
The lint roller! *giggles wildly*

Pregnant women used to be warned against crocheting or knitting--the act of tying knots in string might work in some sympathetic magic fashion to give a difficult delivery, as if someone had tied knots in the birth canal.

But then on the other hand, I think--I can't remember for sure, but I want to say that brides were encouraged to do domestic stuff like that, as it symbolized the bride and groom being bound together.

Putting science and math stuff in with it makes my brain want to be thinky, but I can't come up with anything coherent just yet. I suppose there's a reason that it's called "string theory", right?

And speaking of science and yarn, you saw this (http://whywouldyouknitthat.blogspot.com/2008/09/this-is-what-happens-when-biologist.html), right?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perspi.livejournal.com
Oh, there is NOT enough knitting fic in SGA! But I don't need any more plotbunnies! GAH.

And now I'm imagining Rodney watching Ronon crochet (because you know the man has such hidden talents and crochet hooks are also good weapons) and getting the idea and wanting to learn so he can get his representation down and Ronon teaching him (much to Rodney's frustration, it takes him considerable time to pick it up, and even longer to learn knitting, while John smirks and Ronon chuckles, and Ronon's a fantastically patient teacher), and then Rodney discovers he actually LIKES crocheting--it's a great meditative activity--and he makes hats for his whole team and Keller comments how his blood pressure is lower than she's ever seen it.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
The maths always baffles me, although I'd trust Marcus du Sautoy to explain *anything* to me. I really hope I never run into him in Oxford because my fangirling is so huge I'm bound to do something embarrassing *facepalm* I can't knit or crochet (I just end up tying the needles together) but I'd love to have a go at the maths :)

*giggle* Isn't it awesome? Someone was having too much with CGI...

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
The lint roller made me giggle so much! It's just wonderful!

I love the maths stuff when someone explains it to me in words of one syllable, but I really don't have the background to understand most of it. Still, I love listening to experts talk interestingly about their subject, even if I only get one word in four...

And yeah, I saw that handicraft project. Just... Why? Why would you do that?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
There's this fic (http://glitterati.talkoncorners.net/fiction/435.php) by the always wonderful Rageprufrock, that I can't read because I have ISSUES with fic where Rodney's deliberately excluded from social stuff (seriously - I have to fastforward bits of "McKay and Mrs Miller" because they make me so angry I burst into tears. it's...a thing)

But that fic. That fic I want to read, and I want to read now! *feeds plot bunnies* Because Rodney crochets a hat for John, just a beanie but in a black yarn that's got silver in it, and when John pulls it on, it's just that little bit too small so that his ears stick out as does a tuft of hair at the front, which makes Teyla smile in that way she does when she's trying not to laugh, and Rodney's all embarrassed but John kind of likes it and wears it on their next mission to Planet Icicle.

Teyla's hat is brown, and Rodney makes a really tiny one for Torren too.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perspi.livejournal.com
KNOCK IT OFF. Seriously, I do NOT need more plotbunnies.

Because Rodney will not be satisfied with John's yarmulke/beanie, but he will rather that John's pointy ears stay WARM, thank you, so he will next knit a bomber hat (because all pilots need a bomber hat, yeah?) and Ronon will request a Dr. Who scarf and Rodney will make it in no time flat because once he gets the hang of it he's fast. :) Because Ronon doesn't do hats, with his hair, but he likes scarves that he can tie around his ears and let the tails hang down his back.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
Pffft. I have a WIP list longer than most of the *actual* WsIP. This is more fun.

Because Teyla gets slightly alarmed when Rodney knits Torren a romper suit. Not that it's not cute and all, and it fits really well with just enough room for him to wear for a few months until he grows out of it (because Rodney's Rodney and measured). It's just that if she accepts this now she's worried he's not going to stop, and while the knitting is good, the color is kind of weird. She loves Rodney, but she loves her son more and doesn't want to have to send him to play with other children wearing a pastel orange sweater.

*tags you and runs off*

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mad-jaks.livejournal.com
That's totally fine *grins madly*

I know I have read SGA knitting fic before - the Stitch n'Bitch stuff - now who wrote that??

*trundles off*

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
The knitting fic was by Rageprufrock (link in comment to perspi *points upwards*) Your puppy-fic may have just morphed into knitting-fic, by the way.

Although now I think about it, I think Gwen might actually be *knitting* a puppy...*facepalm*

My brain, it is broken.

How you doing?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mad-jaks.livejournal.com
It was :D
I was just breezing through - not reading obviously. I have it open in another window right now.

I am rubbish at knitting animals (it's the stuffing I just don't have the knack) so I hope Gwen is better at it than me... *G*

I am hungry... and my husband left the loft ladder down on our landing and I stubbed my toe a few minutes ago:(

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-02 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perspi.livejournal.com
STOP TAGGING ME. I have too much to do! But. I've been coming back to this fic with my brain, lately, and just today and last night I've added a little. So, just a heads-up if you want to check the googledoc or you can just let me putter along for another couple days...

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-02 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
Mwahahahahahahahahaha!

Ahahahahahaha!

Ahahah!

*ahem*

*toddles off to look at googledoc*

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 12:52 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (doctor meow)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
I've got a bit of a cold right now so can't quite get my mind around the mathematics (...not that I could anyway) but those articles gave me a hankering to get out the old crochet hook...

And the cat-herding is simply marvelous!

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] travels-in-time.livejournal.com
The lint roller! *giggles wildly*

Pregnant women used to be warned against crocheting or knitting--the act of tying knots in string might work in some sympathetic magic fashion to give a difficult delivery, as if someone had tied knots in the birth canal.

But then on the other hand, I think--I can't remember for sure, but I want to say that brides were encouraged to do domestic stuff like that, as it symbolized the bride and groom being bound together.

Putting science and math stuff in with it makes my brain want to be thinky, but I can't come up with anything coherent just yet. I suppose there's a reason that it's called "string theory", right?

And speaking of science and yarn, you saw this (http://whywouldyouknitthat.blogspot.com/2008/09/this-is-what-happens-when-biologist.html), right?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perspi.livejournal.com
Oh, there is NOT enough knitting fic in SGA! But I don't need any more plotbunnies! GAH.

And now I'm imagining Rodney watching Ronon crochet (because you know the man has such hidden talents and crochet hooks are also good weapons) and getting the idea and wanting to learn so he can get his representation down and Ronon teaching him (much to Rodney's frustration, it takes him considerable time to pick it up, and even longer to learn knitting, while John smirks and Ronon chuckles, and Ronon's a fantastically patient teacher), and then Rodney discovers he actually LIKES crocheting--it's a great meditative activity--and he makes hats for his whole team and Keller comments how his blood pressure is lower than she's ever seen it.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
The maths always baffles me, although I'd trust Marcus du Sautoy to explain *anything* to me. I really hope I never run into him in Oxford because my fangirling is so huge I'm bound to do something embarrassing *facepalm* I can't knit or crochet (I just end up tying the needles together) but I'd love to have a go at the maths :)

*giggle* Isn't it awesome? Someone was having too much with CGI...

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
The lint roller made me giggle so much! It's just wonderful!

I love the maths stuff when someone explains it to me in words of one syllable, but I really don't have the background to understand most of it. Still, I love listening to experts talk interestingly about their subject, even if I only get one word in four...

And yeah, I saw that handicraft project. Just... Why? Why would you do that?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
There's this fic (http://glitterati.talkoncorners.net/fiction/435.php) by the always wonderful Rageprufrock, that I can't read because I have ISSUES with fic where Rodney's deliberately excluded from social stuff (seriously - I have to fastforward bits of "McKay and Mrs Miller" because they make me so angry I burst into tears. it's...a thing)

But that fic. That fic I want to read, and I want to read now! *feeds plot bunnies* Because Rodney crochets a hat for John, just a beanie but in a black yarn that's got silver in it, and when John pulls it on, it's just that little bit too small so that his ears stick out as does a tuft of hair at the front, which makes Teyla smile in that way she does when she's trying not to laugh, and Rodney's all embarrassed but John kind of likes it and wears it on their next mission to Planet Icicle.

Teyla's hat is brown, and Rodney makes a really tiny one for Torren too.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perspi.livejournal.com
KNOCK IT OFF. Seriously, I do NOT need more plotbunnies.

Because Rodney will not be satisfied with John's yarmulke/beanie, but he will rather that John's pointy ears stay WARM, thank you, so he will next knit a bomber hat (because all pilots need a bomber hat, yeah?) and Ronon will request a Dr. Who scarf and Rodney will make it in no time flat because once he gets the hang of it he's fast. :) Because Ronon doesn't do hats, with his hair, but he likes scarves that he can tie around his ears and let the tails hang down his back.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
Pffft. I have a WIP list longer than most of the *actual* WsIP. This is more fun.

Because Teyla gets slightly alarmed when Rodney knits Torren a romper suit. Not that it's not cute and all, and it fits really well with just enough room for him to wear for a few months until he grows out of it (because Rodney's Rodney and measured). It's just that if she accepts this now she's worried he's not going to stop, and while the knitting is good, the color is kind of weird. She loves Rodney, but she loves her son more and doesn't want to have to send him to play with other children wearing a pastel orange sweater.

*tags you and runs off*

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mad-jaks.livejournal.com
That's totally fine *grins madly*

I know I have read SGA knitting fic before - the Stitch n'Bitch stuff - now who wrote that??

*trundles off*

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
The knitting fic was by Rageprufrock (link in comment to perspi *points upwards*) Your puppy-fic may have just morphed into knitting-fic, by the way.

Although now I think about it, I think Gwen might actually be *knitting* a puppy...*facepalm*

My brain, it is broken.

How you doing?

(no subject)

Date: 2008-11-11 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mad-jaks.livejournal.com
It was :D
I was just breezing through - not reading obviously. I have it open in another window right now.

I am rubbish at knitting animals (it's the stuffing I just don't have the knack) so I hope Gwen is better at it than me... *G*

I am hungry... and my husband left the loft ladder down on our landing and I stubbed my toe a few minutes ago:(

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-02 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perspi.livejournal.com
STOP TAGGING ME. I have too much to do! But. I've been coming back to this fic with my brain, lately, and just today and last night I've added a little. So, just a heads-up if you want to check the googledoc or you can just let me putter along for another couple days...

(no subject)

Date: 2008-12-02 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
Mwahahahahahahahahaha!

Ahahahahahaha!

Ahahah!

*ahem*

*toddles off to look at googledoc*