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So.

Well then.

I was going to post something witty and lengthy about the episode, making comparisons, exploring themes, referencing films, books and plays and possibly ending in song.

Instead, I shall throw the floor open. I know lots of you have ranted in your journals already, but let's take this as calmly as we can. As usual, big areas for discussion are Performance, Production and Writing, and let's make sure we include implications for Torchwood. Assume that everyone's seen everything, so also ASSUME SPOILERS in the comments.

Feelings are running high, so let's try to keep it polite. Debating's fine; flaming's not. Keep it clean, folks.

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Date: 2007-07-01 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyberducks.livejournal.com
My main worry right now is how I am going to be reconciling knowing Jack's ultimate fate with any future enjoyment of him in TW. I didn't want to know how Jack finally dies anymore than wanting to know how I or beloved family and friends will die.

It makes me anxious thinking about TW and the character now - and that makes me resent RTD throwing that Boe thing out there.

It doesn't help that I was seriously underwhelmed with the finally in general. And what PTB were saying about Martha in the commentaries makes me scratch my head too.

Not a good time for me right now as a fan.

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Date: 2007-07-01 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
Hmmm...I don't think his being/not being the Face of Boe is a big deal for Torchwood, given how far in the future it is. I mean, even the year 100,200 is a pretty long way off. There are some good "interpretations" out there to explain it away, which are comforting for those who are struggling with it.

I loved Martha in this - what were PTB saying??

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Date: 2007-07-01 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyberducks.livejournal.com
The gist about Martha was that PTB were saying that Martha's function on this series was to be the "rebound companion" - to be the companion who helps Ten get over Rose - so that her successor can have a clean slate with Ten.
I have a question - when that newscast was playing about the FOB being pregnant during "Long Game"? - did they show the FOB then?

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Date: 2007-07-02 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com
I don't know about the newscast. Would have to scroll through screencaps. It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it ;)

On the Martha front, well, if she gets decent development as well, I can actually live with that. I find I view these things very much as a writer now, and from a writing point of view, that kind of character's necessary. It doesn't mean she's not a good character in her own right, it just means that she's there for a reason. In some ways, the companions are the OCs of Doctor who - they're there to cast light on the Doctor, to be the audience inside the story. If they can have great personalities and stories as well, then the writers are doing their job right!

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Date: 2007-07-02 08:55 am (UTC)
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Yes.

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